Whether or not to recline in economy seems to be a divisive issue. Courtesy Etihad
Whether or not to recline in economy seems to be a divisive issue. Courtesy Etihad
Whether or not to recline in economy seems to be a divisive issue. Courtesy Etihad
Whether or not to recline in economy seems to be a divisive issue. Courtesy Etihad

The great debate: Should you recline your seat while on a plane?


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This week, we debate the right to recline on planes, The National's weekend editor Katy Gillett says the ability to tilt the seat back is there for a reason, while assistant features editor Sophie Prideaux, as a long-legged person, argues why we should all stay upright.

Katy Gillett: Last week, a video of a man punching a fellow passenger's seat when she chose to recline went viral. Social media users were divided on who was in the right. One Twitter user wrote that reclining your seat when in economy was "literally the most selfish, inconsiderate thing a person can do. It literally ruins the travel experience of the person sitting behind you". I think that's an overreaction.

Sophie Prideaux: Firstly, let me just say that punching someone's seat is a complete overreaction and extremely aggressive. But I do agree with the sentiment of that Twitter user. I'm not a recliner and, as a long-legged person, I find it frustrating when people sitting in front of me are.

Perhaps they should segregate the cabins into reclining and non-reclining sides, then we would all know where we stand (or sit)

KG: Perhaps as a rather short-legged person I'm coming from a place of privilege here, but I totally disagree. The seats recline, so therefore we can recline. The day the aviation experts stop making it possible for us to lay back a little is the day I stop pushing that button.

SP: Reclining may make your flight more comfortable, but what about the person sitting behind you? Long or short-legged, reclining your seat cuts down an already limited level of comfort for somebody else and I don't think that's fair. If everybody on the plane reclined the same amount, then fine, but then they should have designed the cabin that way.

KG: In my defence, I tend to check out who's behind me before reclining. Obviously if the seat is empty, I'll go all out, but if someone is there I might only recline halfway (unless it's a child, because they're small). I personally don't mind it when the person in front reclines, because my seatback screen is adjustable – so the level of brightness is not affected – and as long as I'm reclined then I have the same amount of space I did when we started.

SP: Exactly, it works if you are reclined, too. But not everybody does and someone, somewhere is going to lose out. I have in the past been forced to sit with my knees wedged up against the chair in front of me for eight hours and had to eat my meal with very little space. Even if I reclined, it wouldn't have changed my leg room situation. Perhaps I am too polite, but I would be a hypocrite to recline given that I hate it when it happens to me.

KG: But that's the point. If the person in front of you reclines, then you recline and the person behind you reclines, then you will all have the same space you all started off with. It's just a little more diagonally proportioned. If you stretch out your legs, I don't really see how the angle affects you.

SP: Sitting with your knees folded is a more natural position, especially for long periods of time, and it's very difficult to do that when the seat in front of you is tilted back – especially if you are tall.

KG: Perhaps I am not polite enough, but I think we need to take all the small comforts we can get while on the plane. I definitely think everyone should push their seats back up during mealtimes. We can all also check how uncomfortable the person behind us is in the first place, before reclining. Better yet, we could even ask them if they mind if we recline. Would you try doing that next time you fly? If they say they don't mind, then you don't have to feel guilty and you are more comfortable. It's a win-win.

SP: Yes, that's a fair point. And if someone asked me, I would of course say yes, even though I know it's going to make my own journey more uncomfortable. Perhaps I need to get over my reclining reservation, but I have always found flying to be much less stressful if everybody, myself included, stays upright.

KG: Flying is generally uncomfortable and infuriating (unless you're relaxing in Etihad business class, like the woman pictured below), but thankfully the seat recline is not something I get particularly irritated by. What annoys me is people not following simple rules, such as turning off their phones or staying put in their seat during take-off and landing. I don't like it when anyone runs around or when they encroach on my space with their bag or behind while I'm in an aisle seat. It'd be great if everyone covered their mouths and noses when they coughed or sneezed. Also, if you're a stranger and are sitting next to me on a flight, let's not talk to each other until we only have about 20 minutes left in the journey.

On business class, whether or not to recline isn't an issue. Etihad
On business class, whether or not to recline isn't an issue. Etihad

SP: See, we all have our travelling peeves and it looks as though your list is much longer than mine. I'm happy for a chat with another passenger, or to hop up and down to let people out for the bathroom or to stretch their legs, as long as I have space for mine when I'm sitting down.

KG: So it all just boils down to the fact that you're too polite and I'm too grumpy, then, ha! Or, airlines simply need to give us more space in the first place and we wouldn't have this air of tension every time we board a flight.

SP: Wouldn't that be great? Perhaps they should segregate the cabins into reclining and non-reclining sides, then we would all know where we stand (or sit).

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Guns N’ Roses’s last gig before Abu Dhabi was in Hong Kong on November 21. We were there – and here’s what they played, and in what order. You were warned.

  • It’s So Easy
  • Mr Brownstone
  • Chinese Democracy
  • Welcome to the Jungle
  • Double Talkin’ Jive
  • Better
  • Estranged
  • Live and Let Die (Wings cover)
  • Slither (Velvet Revolver cover)
  • Rocket Queen
  • You Could Be Mine
  • Shadow of Your Love
  • Attitude (Misfits cover)
  • Civil War
  • Coma
  • Love Theme from The Godfather (movie cover)
  • Sweet Child O’ Mine
  • Wichita Lineman (Jimmy Webb cover)
  • Wish You Were Here (instrumental Pink Floyd cover)
  • November Rain
  • Black Hole Sun (Soundgarden cover)
  • Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door (Bob Dylan cover)
  • Nightrain

Encore:

  • Patience
  • Don’t Cry
  • The Seeker (The Who cover)
  • Paradise City
The Pope's itinerary

Sunday, February 3, 2019 - Rome to Abu Dhabi
1pm: departure by plane from Rome / Fiumicino to Abu Dhabi
10pm: arrival at Abu Dhabi Presidential Airport


Monday, February 4
12pm: welcome ceremony at the main entrance of the Presidential Palace
12.20pm: visit Abu Dhabi Crown Prince at Presidential Palace
5pm: private meeting with Muslim Council of Elders at Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque
6.10pm: Inter-religious in the Founder's Memorial


Tuesday, February 5 - Abu Dhabi to Rome
9.15am: private visit to undisclosed cathedral
10.30am: public mass at Zayed Sports City – with a homily by Pope Francis
12.40pm: farewell at Abu Dhabi Presidential Airport
1pm: departure by plane to Rome
5pm: arrival at the Rome / Ciampino International Airport

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FA CUP FINAL

Manchester City 6
(D Silva 26', Sterling 38', 81', 87', De Bruyne 61', Jesus 68')

Watford 0

Man of the match: Bernardo Silva (Manchester City)

Ziina users can donate to relief efforts in Beirut

Ziina users will be able to use the app to help relief efforts in Beirut, which has been left reeling after an August blast caused an estimated $15 billion in damage and left thousands homeless. Ziina has partnered with the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to raise money for the Lebanese capital, co-founder Faisal Toukan says. “As of October 1, the UNHCR has the first certified badge on Ziina and is automatically part of user's top friends' list during this campaign. Users can now donate any amount to the Beirut relief with two clicks. The money raised will go towards rebuilding houses for the families that were impacted by the explosion.”

MATCH INFO

Uefa Champions League semi-final, first leg
Bayern Munich v Real Madrid

When: April 25, 10.45pm kick-off (UAE)
Where: Allianz Arena, Munich
Live: BeIN Sports HD
Second leg: May 1, Santiago Bernabeu, Madrid

MOUNTAINHEAD REVIEW

Starring: Ramy Youssef, Steve Carell, Jason Schwartzman

Director: Jesse Armstrong

Rating: 3.5/5

The years Ramadan fell in May

1987

1954

1921

1888

Ordinary Virtues: Moral Order in a Divided World by Michael Ignatieff
Harvard University Press

The biog

Name: Fareed Lafta

Age: 40

From: Baghdad, Iraq

Mission: Promote world peace

Favourite poet: Al Mutanabbi

Role models: His parents 

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Teams

India (playing XI): Virat Kohli (c), Ajinkya Rahane, Rohit Sharma, Mayank Agarwal, Cheteshwar Pujara, Hanuma Vihari, Ravichandran Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja, Wriddhiman Saha (wk), Ishant Sharma, Mohammed Shami

South Africa (squad): Faf du Plessis (c), Temba Bavuma, Theunis de Bruyn, Quinton de Kock, Dean Elgar, Zubayr Hamza, Keshav Maharaj, Aiden Markram, Senuran Muthusamy, Lungi Ngidi, Anrich Nortje, Vernon Philander, Dane Piedt, Kagiso Rabada, Rudi Second

UAE jiu-jitsu squad

Men: Hamad Nawad and Khalid Al Balushi (56kg), Omar Al Fadhli and Saeed Al Mazroui (62kg), Taleb Al Kirbi and Humaid Al Kaabi (69kg), Mohammed Al Qubaisi and Saud Al Hammadi (70kg), Khalfan Belhol and Mohammad Haitham Radhi (85kg), Faisal Al Ketbi and Zayed Al Kaabi (94kg)

Women: Wadima Al Yafei and Mahra Al Hanaei (49kg), Bashayer Al Matrooshi and Hessa Al Shamsi (62kg)

Coming soon

Torno Subito by Massimo Bottura

When the W Dubai – The Palm hotel opens at the end of this year, one of the highlights will be Massimo Bottura’s new restaurant, Torno Subito, which promises “to take guests on a journey back to 1960s Italy”. It is the three Michelinstarred chef’s first venture in Dubai and should be every bit as ambitious as you would expect from the man whose restaurant in Italy, Osteria Francescana, was crowned number one in this year’s list of the World’s 50 Best Restaurants.

Akira Back Dubai

Another exciting opening at the W Dubai – The Palm hotel is South Korean chef Akira Back’s new restaurant, which will continue to showcase some of the finest Asian food in the world. Back, whose Seoul restaurant, Dosa, won a Michelin star last year, describes his menu as,  “an innovative Japanese cuisine prepared with a Korean accent”.

Dinner by Heston Blumenthal

The highly experimental chef, whose dishes are as much about spectacle as taste, opens his first restaurant in Dubai next year. Housed at The Royal Atlantis Resort & Residences, Dinner by Heston Blumenthal will feature contemporary twists on recipes that date back to the 1300s, including goats’ milk cheesecake. Always remember with a Blumenthal dish: nothing is quite as it seems. 

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ACL Elite (West) - fixtures

Monday, Sept 30

Al Sadd v Esteghlal (8pm)
Persepolis v Pakhtakor (8pm)
Al Wasl v Al Ahli (8pm)
Al Nassr v Al Rayyan (10pm)

Tuesday, Oct 1
Al Hilal v Al Shorta (10pm)
Al Gharafa v Al Ain (10pm)

Three tips from La Perle's performers

1 The kind of water athletes drink is important. Gwilym Hooson, a 28-year-old British performer who is currently recovering from knee surgery, found that out when the company was still in Studio City, training for 12 hours a day. “The physio team was like: ‘Why is everyone getting cramps?’ And then they realised we had to add salt and sugar to the water,” he says.

2 A little chocolate is a good thing. “It’s emergency energy,” says Craig Paul Smith, La Perle’s head coach and former Cirque du Soleil performer, gesturing to an almost-empty open box of mini chocolate bars on his desk backstage.

3 Take chances, says Young, who has worked all over the world, including most recently at Dragone’s show in China. “Every time we go out of our comfort zone, we learn a lot about ourselves,” she says.

Huddersfield Town permanent signings:

  • Steve Mounie (striker): signed from Montpellier for £11 million
  • Tom Ince (winger): signed from Derby County for £7.7m
  • Aaron Mooy (midfielder): signed from Manchester City for £7.7m
  • Laurent Depoitre (striker): signed from Porto for £3.4m
  • Scott Malone (defender): signed from Fulham for £3.3m
  • Zanka (defender): signed from Copenhagen for £2.3m
  • Elias Kachunga (winger): signed for Ingolstadt for £1.1m
  • Danny WIlliams (midfielder): signed from Reading on a free transfer
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Gulf rugby

Who’s won what so far in 2018/19

Western Clubs Champions League: Bahrain
Dubai Rugby Sevens: Dubai Hurricanes
West Asia Premiership: Bahrain

What’s left

UAE Conference

March 22, play-offs:
Dubai Hurricanes II v Al Ain Amblers, Jebel Ali Dragons II v Dubai Tigers

March 29, final

UAE Premiership

March 22, play-offs: 
Dubai Exiles v Jebel Ali Dragons, Abu Dhabi Harlequins v Dubai Hurricanes

March 29, final

WHAT IS A BLACK HOLE?

1. Black holes are objects whose gravity is so strong not even light can escape their pull

2. They can be created when massive stars collapse under their own weight

3. Large black holes can also be formed when smaller ones collide and merge

4. The biggest black holes lurk at the centre of many galaxies, including our own

5. Astronomers believe that when the universe was very young, black holes affected how galaxies formed

The essentials

What: Emirates Airline Festival of Literature

When: Friday until March 9

Where: All main sessions are held in the InterContinental Dubai Festival City

Price: Sessions range from free entry to Dh125 tickets, with the exception of special events.

Hot Tip: If waiting for your book to be signed looks like it will be timeconsuming, ask the festival’s bookstore if they have pre-signed copies of the book you’re looking for. They should have a bunch from some of the festival’s biggest guest authors.

Information: www.emirateslitfest.com
 

Cinco in numbers

Dh3.7 million

The estimated cost of Victoria Swarovski’s gem-encrusted Michael Cinco wedding gown

46

The number, in kilograms, that Swarovski’s wedding gown weighed.

1,000

The hours it took to create Cinco’s vermillion petal gown, as seen in his atelier [note, is the one he’s playing with in the corner of a room]

50

How many looks Cinco has created in a new collection to celebrate Ballet Philippines’ 50th birthday

3,000

The hours needed to create the butterfly gown worn by Aishwarya Rai to the 2018 Cannes Film Festival.

1.1 million

The number of followers that Michael Cinco’s Instagram account has garnered.

WWE Super ShowDown results

Seth Rollins beat Baron Corbin to retain his WWE Universal title

Finn Balor defeated Andrade to stay WWE Intercontinental Championship

Shane McMahon defeated Roman Reigns

Lars Sullivan won by disqualification against Lucha House Party

Randy Orton beats Triple H

Braun Strowman beats Bobby Lashley

Kofi Kingston wins against Dolph Zigggler to retain the WWE World Heavyweight Championship

Mansoor Al Shehail won the 50-man Battle Royal

The Undertaker beat Goldberg